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MilkMan

I can't wait for the inevitable reconsideration of Flakes in 2045. It seems like every movie ever made can be categorized like this:

1. Classic (that deserves to be)
2. Classic (that doesn't deserve to be)
3. Lost Classic

I can only assume that this is a side-effect of the Internet. So much infinite space that needs to be filled. Sometimes I wonder if you film bloggers just walk into a film rental store and close your eyes and grab whatever. You know, pretty soon you're going to run out of garbage, uh, I mean films.

No one has nutballed the socio-cultural attributes of Best Defense yet. I think that film held up a mirror to something we were all experiencing in 1985, didn't it? And don't forget Eric Red's Body Parts from 1991. Actually, forget about that one. That one's mine. That's the one I'm going to make my name on. Mind/Body Split and the Insecurity of Living in a Post-Cold War Environment.

Can't shit just ever be shit? Nope.

mike

how the HECK could you miss Rosenberg's greatest directorial achievement - Cool Hand Luke!!!!!!

C'mon, FB!!!!

Filmbrain

MilkMan -- Shit can be shit, yes. However, maybe there actually is something worthwhile about Move? Have you seen it? You're more than welcome to post a rebuttal if you disagree with my reaction.

Also, sorry to let you down, but it doesn't fall into any of the three categories you laid out. I think it's much better than its reputation, and far more daring a studio film than you'll ever see today. Perhaps it does require a critical distance of thirty+ years to see its merits.

As for your video store comment....oh to be able to walk into one and see the likes of Move on the shelf....

I can't speak for Best Defense, but I know someone who has a very strong case for Spies Like Us.

Filmbrain

Mike --

I didn't think it necessary to mention Cool Hand Luke -- everybody knows and loves that one. (But between you and me -- I think Newman's better in WUSA and The Drowning Pool, but don't tell anybody I said that.)

David N

Newman is great in both the Harper movies. I always liked him better when he let himself be a movie star than when he self-consciously tried to be an Actor.

Whereas Gould, in the 70s, was worth watching in pretty much anything. And he always seems so effortless...

Filmbrain

Oh, and MilkMan, I would argue that Stuart Rosenberg is one of the unsung American auteurs of the 60s and 70s.

Filmbrain

David --

Too true about Gould. There's a scene in the film where he talks with his mouth full, and I realized that he's a master at that -- nobody acts better with a mouthful of food than Elliott Gould.

Tom Russell

The story I heard, which could be completely false, is that "Pope" was mostly ghost-directed by Cimino. Anyone else hear about this? Is there any validity to it?

colinr

I agree on Body Parts MilkMan! Based on a Boileau and Narcejac novel!

I particularly enjoyed seeing the very British Lindsay Duncan as an obviously unhinged mad doctor! And if I ever start a blog of my own one of my posts will be on the career of the character actor Zakes Mokae (he was in this and in tiny parts in huge mid 90's blockbusters Waterworld and Outbreak, had a recurring role in the Oz TV series but really shone in Richard Stanley's film Dust Devil, one of my favourite 90s horrors)

Michael Lieberman

Wow, the theme to "Move" is total iPod material. Muchos gracias!

Filmbrain

Michael -- glad you enjoyed it. It's a shame there's some dialog in there.

Tom -- I never heard that story before. I guess you could see Cimino in there. Maybe I'll have to compare it with Year of the Dragon.

colinr

Ah, yes but it's Professor Frink style dialogue, which makes it fine by me! "Hey Layddeee!"

john john

Are you planning to review the other two films you got from "extremely kind reader?"

A rarely seen, mod-era Elliott Gould film sounds right up my alley. I'm a little envious. I'm a big fan of "Little Murders." Anybody who doubts Gould's ability to maintain interest just by sitting still and talking for three unbroken minutes should check out his monologue about the guy who is reading his mail in that film.

Filmbrain

Yes, I will definitely be reviewing those other films.

Couldn't agree more with you about Gould, which is why Move was such a pleasure to watch, for it's pretty much all him for the entire film.

Griff

Not only did a major studio finance and distribute MOVE, but it was produced by Pandro S. Berman and photographed by William Daniels. That's sort of breathtaking to imagine... the producer of TOP HAT and the other Astaire & Rogers musicals, NATIONAL VELVET and FATHER OF THE BRIDE and the favorite cameraman of von Stroheim, Garbo and Sinatra, collaborating with Stuart Rosenberg on MOVE. [It was the last film for both Berman and Daniels.] 1970 was a remarkable transition year for the movies.

I don't give much credence to the Cimino connection to THE POPE OF GREENWICH VILLAGE. He may have been involved in certain early stages of the project, but I don't believe that he directed any of the film.

Todshi

Do my eyes deceive me? Somebody is actually give this movie a POSSITIVE review?
I used to watch this flick a lot when I was a kid. It was a butched TV version and didn't make a hellava lotta sence, but I dug it because it was just pain weird.
The last time I saw it was on the day John Lennon died.

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