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2008.07.20

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Nicholas

Thanks for this.

I just watched Herzog's Stroyzcek. Most of the film was set and shot in Wisconsin, where the German protagonist moves with his girlfriend, but they do have to pass through New York, and when they first arrive, and Herzog gives us this amazing shot of their boat (I love how they arrive in America by boat in 70s, who was still doing that?) arriving at the West End docks. Herzog decides to film their arrival from an extreme distance. In fact he films it from the top of the Empire State Building, and its enormous shadow overwhelms the shot and fore-shadows how American culture will overwhelm these immigrants. Instead of seeing the skyline from Stoyczek's perspective, Herzog brilliantly gives us the quasi- divine perspective of an American landmark.

Tom Russell

My favourite New York movie-- one from the seventies that has been forgotten-- is "Born to Win", the weird little comedy-drama by Ivan Passer starring George Segal and Karen Black. Maybe it'd be better to say "comedy and drama"; hyphenating the two seems to imply that they're somehow connected, and in this film they're never really combined-- rather it ping-pongs from one mood to the next.

There's still something immensely appealing about it for me, though-- an indescribable energy, a sense of life. Gritty and optimistic, characters who are blind to and yet at the same time totally aware of their flaws-- a very young Robert De Niro, songs by Miss Karen Black, and George Segal in a frilly pink dress. You can't really top that. (Well, you can, but you know what I mean.)

c mason wells

Tom, you're dead-on: BORN TO WIN is extraordinary.

FB, have you seen Akerman's NEWS FROM HOME? For me, it's THE portrait of 1977 NYC. It's all about the city's colors and rhythms and flavors. I've never seen a movie that better captures what it feels like to ride the subway or a car -- or simply walk -- through New York.

Filmbrain

Tom/Chris --

Agreed about Born to Win, which for some reason never found the respect that Panic in Needle Park has, even though I think it's a better film. (It was a NYFF selection in 71!)

As for News From Home, I agree that it is a tremendous visual portrait of the city, but I feel that there's too great a distance between Akerman and the subject...it feels too clinical in a way. NYC as a subject of study, rather than felt. Then again, it's been years since I've seen it.

jay

I'm a bit younger, but I still can remember watching the WPIX news in the late 80s as a kid in Vermont, in awe of the grittiness and horrific crime stories every night, along with shots of subway cars and building covered in gorgeous graffiti tags. The city just seems to have lost its grain and contrast, not just in films but in real life. Everything is just so bright and shiny and clean, which is everything NYC is not supposed to be.

c mason wells

Akerman's distance is precisely what I like about NEWS FROM HOME, because it's a perspective that's uniquely her own. But while though the film is visually quite distant, the (semi-?)autobiographical letters read aloud make the film one of Akerman's most poignant and personal. The whole film is about dislocation in NYC, something to which I can relate even as a native.

And FB, I completely agree with your feeling that "foreign films shot in NYC are the most revealing, as they tend to expose those elements of the city that made the greatest impression on the director." In fact, this is truly of most American directors filming anywhere in the US. It's one of my favorite sub-genres of film, actually: distinctly AMERICAN portraits made by foreign filmmakers, people who view our country from fresh angles. ALICE IN THE CITIES (along with Wenders's equally great Nick Ray portrait LIGHTNING OVER WATER) certainly qualifies. And there are so many others, too, from ZABRISKIE POINT right up to MY BLUEBERRY NIGHTS...

BStaughton

I saw a great documentary that touches on some issues that the readers here might be interested in.

It's called "Passing Poston" and it's playing again in New York - next at Two Boots Pioneer Theater from August the 8th till the 14th. "Poston" is about the Japanese-American citizens forcibly placed in internment camps during WWII, and their ongoing search for a place to belong in a country that once labeled them the enemy.

Great movie! more info at http://www.passingposton.com/

chris

Wenders DID accidentally choose to film the stadium music (as stated in a book I own about him)
They began playing a song in rehearsals I believe as he was filming there and he decided to just film it, and later, in include it.

Very perceptive.

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