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2005.08.29

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girish

This sounds fascinating, I had no idea such a documentary existed. Now to convert those Danish kroner values into US$...

Hotspur

Did you ever see the first trailer for Dogville which used only snippets from the confession booth and nothing from the film itself?

My worry about Manderlay is that it wasn't just his detractors that panned it at Cannes, but his supporters too. But it's heartening that the NYFF liked it.

Hotspur

Just looked at the Manderlay website http://www.manderlaythefilm.com. Interestingly, Lauren Bacall is one of the few from the Dogville cast who came back for more!

Jordan Hoffman

Re: Bacall -- She's gotta work, don't she? Who else is offering her roles (other than, like, tough Granny Cop in Spy Kids 12?)

Tribe

A agree that Lars doesn't like his actors very much. Yet, notwithstanding that, he does manage to get some of the most powerful and powerful performances out of them that I've seen in my years of watching movies. The BFI monograph on The Idiots makes it pretty clear that Lars may have been overtly absusive to some members of his cast.

Hell, I don't think Lars likes audiences that much.

Mikko Pihkoluoma

I don't know if any of you saw 'The Five Obstruction', but it only reaffirmed my intuition that Lars thinks art should be a result of intense battle... Judging by his narratives, I'd also argue he has a big fixation towards extreme contrasts, contradictions/paradoxes, etc. In a lot of ways he reminds me of Kubrick: strong (narrative and visual) contrasts or "inversions", and tough relationships with actors (e.g. 'The Making of The Shinging'). (I also couldn't help but think about Barry Lyndon all the way through Dogville, especially in terms of use of voice-over narration...)

Anyway, I saw Manderlay eight days ago and loved it. Like other films of his, it's actually very complicated to express whether I actually "liked" it or not (let alone why), but over the years, I've grown to like them for that very reason.

Mikko Pihkoluoma

One more thing: To know more about Lars not liking his actors you should all read this rather entertainging discussion between Paul Thomas Anderson and him.

http://web.archive.org/web/20031217191450/http://www.ptanderson.com/articlesandinterviews/pdl/blackbook.htm

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