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2005.07.25

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la_depressionada

i saw the trailer during my unhappy excursion to Last Days. The actresses seem superb. And speaking of Gus Van Sant, I've always pretty much loathed him (although parts of Drugstore Cowboy were amusing owing to Matt Dillon's behavioral resemblance to no. 1. his mother hid her purse anytime he came over), however now I am on a full force rampage of hatred against GvS.

Last Days took 55 minutes of precious life from me (minutes which i do not have to spare) and did some permanent damage to some the dearest parts of my brain. It was a trauma and a torture to sit through that much. NSFPC (not safe for the politically correct): I have known other gays guys like this. Listen: NOT EVERY GOOD LOOKING GUY IS GAY NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU WANT THEM TO BE. I fucking hate the skewed view through the gayifying lens (and don't get me wrong, i love honest gay, lesbian, transgendered cinema). I hate the wishful thinking shit he does.

Filmbrain

Why only 55 minutes? Could you not sit through it to the end?

la depressionda

yup couldn't stand it. well you know me: not nearly sensitive or cultured enough for such an elegiac masterpiece.

after i read the reviews in the times and the voice all i could think was, so now nuance (re: the mystery of life and creativity and other IMPORTANT STUFF) = one of those big hammers jerry was always taking to tom's head.

Steve

With respect to LAST DAYS, what "gayifying lens" are you talking about? The scene where 2 of Blake's male hanger-ons sleep together? For a film about a guy who flirted with bisexuality and androgyny (albeit mostly as a rebellious image), that seems perfectly appropriate.

I liked ELEPHANT a great deal and LAST DAYS much less, but I'm bemused by the way they polarize people. Is van Sant turning into the American Lars von Trier?

la depessionada

incredibily insightful lvt comparision, although perhaps somewhat unkind to von trier.

re: gayifying (did i spell that right?). no, i love seeing 2 guys make out and yes, re: bisexuality and androgeny. it's more ineffable than that.

in every gvs movie since the beginning (and i don't claim to have seen every one), i experience this yearning by the filmmaker to restructure the world based upon a particularly kind of gay male paradigm. now, i'm not thrilled with the heterosexual paradigm, but as i said before, i have experienced this with very dogmatic (and mostly male but sometimes female) gay and lesbian (usually brilliant) filmakers artists and intellectuals.

it attempts to assert a kind of purity of emotion? morality? sexuality? the conduit of which is often very good looking young guys or outlaw women or some other highly valued gay archetype. it's irritating. it's wishful thinking.

i hope this is helpful. it is not, i must reiterate, homophobia, more like disingenuousnessophobia, in this particular case utilizing male homosexuality. believe me it happens in other instances, my diatribe on the whimsical female paradigm (as typified by that audrey tatou montmaking movie which has become a kind of subcategory of female indie filmmaking) would 3x as long. it's the wishful thinking as opposed to authenticity experience that bothers me.

i prefer the grittier 70s paradigm, although of course, historical problems are inherent there.

forgive any ex temp errors.

la depressionada

monmartre.

Steve

I see what you mean about van Sant wanting to restructure the world around male beauty and gay desire, but this is no different from what hundreds of heterosexual male filmmakers have done with beautiful women. Or what Claire Denis does with beautiful men and her heterosexual female desire in BEAU TRAVAIL. (In general, van Sant is a pretty politically incorrect gay filmmaker, from Keanu Reeves' line in MY OWN PRIVATE IDAHO that men can't love each other to the kiss between the killers in ELEPHANT.) For all its flaws, LAST DAYS may be the first van Sant film where his characters' beauty doesn't put them in the right. He had more compassion even for the killers in ELEPHANT than for the pathetic parasites who hang around Blake in LAST DAYS.

Chuck

I liked Broken Flowers quite a bit, generally for the reasons you describe--Jarmusch presents conversations as well as any currently-working filmmaker I know. The awkward pauses and miscommunications between characters work very well here for a character reinterpreting and revisiing his past (and by doing so, unintentionally forcing his lovers to do the same). I, too, shared your appreciation of the scene with the florist.

Regarding the "major drug use:" Maybe tobacco is now classified as a major drug in the sanitized world of the MPAA? Like you, I only remember the joint.

Alex

I'm of the opinion that Jarmusch's trip is hallucigen-induced. I believe the advisory board realized this and gave it that 'drug use' rating.

Faux Hulot

Saw Jarmusch speak last week at a screening in upstate NY, and if I didn't enjoy it enough already, what really blew my mind was Jarmusch's assertion that the screenplay was written in "two and a half weeks." Whatever he's on, I want some.

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