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Aaron

WOW! This is really interesting because you and I seem to have utterly different reactions to this film. I won't go into detail here because I do plan to write about it myself, although I will say that like the woeful A.O. Scott, to me it seems you completely missed the point of the conceit, which was to make the character universal. I'm not sure which screening you were at, but he actually commented on this at mine, saying part of his reason was how so many very different people came up to him after DOLLHOUSE saying they were Dawn Weiner, and he wanted to create a character who was, literally, many different people. I also didn't find the SUnshine family heavy-handed at all. The one thing about Solondz which I think is more on display in this film than any of his others is that he writes and shows the subtext rather than trying to hide anything.

ButI am impressed that FINALLY there's a film we totally agree about -- HAPPINESS was, in fact, one of the best films of the '90s. Although I really enjoyed STORYTELLING too. Maybe this is the indie film divide -- those who appreciate the filmmaking artistry of a Solondz and those who appreciate that other crap done by Gallo. :-)

FIlmbrain

Well, Aaron, certainly not the first time we disagree!

Even if that's true (about the meaning of the conceit), it's still completely unsubtle, and not really that clever. And what does he mean by universal? The universality of twelve year-old girls? Of women? Of motherhood?

girish

Well, Filmbrain--

I have to say: "Palindromes" is one of the worst, most pretentious films I've seen in some time.

I speak as one who *loved* "Dollhouse" and "Happiness" and even kinda liked "Storytelling".

As for "liberal pieties", they were put to the test with much greater force in "Happiness".

And as for this brilliant device to connote "universality", the exact same device was used (with subtlety and compassion, not with sledgehammer obviousness) by Bunuel in "Obscure Object of Desire".

Finally, my biggest complaint against the film is that it is baldly, uselessly, pretentiously, misanthropic.

Ahem.

Marleigh

Color me completely bummed out. I loved Dollhouse and Happiness, and if this is as bad as you say it is, I might cry.

FIlmbrain

I think Girish nailed it perfectly.

Nobody loves a bit of misanthropy more than Filmbrain, but there are limits.

From an email received earlier today -- "How can you hate Palindromes but love Short Cuts."

Does that question even deserve consideration? Solondz is no Altman!

Marleigh -- I'd actually love to hear your take on it.

wayne

For you, I'd only use my hand.

Nick

"Solondz is no Altman"

ugh - thank you Filmbrain. I thought Solondz was Altman. Now I know he's not. By the way, if this is all you have to say about Palindromes, basically that you HATED it, why wasting your time writing about it?

Filmbrain

Of course Solandz is no Altman -- the statement was in response to the ridiculous email that had the audacity to compare Palindromes to Short Cuts.

Should my role, or the role of any critic, be simply to write about films they like? Naturally, I'm not going to waste time writing about the remake of The Stepford Wives -- everybody knows that is trash. But a film that plays a major film festival? Why shouldn't I express my dismay?

I believe it was you, in an earlier post, who attacked me for only writing about films I like.

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