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STBD1

I was sitting in a restaurant here in Pittsburgh about a year ago when a college girl and her mom, who were talking very loudly at a nearby booth, changed topics to 9/11. As I recall, the conversation included the following comment from the daughter:

"... and I remember laying in bed on my one day to sleep in and the phone rings, so I let the machine get it and it's you, and you said, "Turn on the TV, they just flew planes into the World Trade Center!" And I was just like, "What's the big deal? It's not my city." So I went back to sleep."

These comments were not delivered with the hindsight of a girl who was amazed at her own callousness but with the I-still-don't-get-it disaffection of a girl who then changed the subject to her summer vacation.

Even as a non-New Yorker, I was appalled, not just by her individual ignorance but by her "shrug it off mentality." I don't believe in ultimate reverence or "how any topic SHOULD be covered," and I applaud the endeavors of others to explain their own point of view of any event. But when that point of view includes base ignorance, then I have issues. I get the feeling this Japanese film handles things much more perceptibly and tactfully than this girl did...

Filmbrain

Beautifully said, STBD1.

I've had similar experiences with people outside of NYC who expressed a similar reaction to the one you describe.

Then of course there were the jackasses, like Stockhausen and Elizabeth Wurtzel who made ridiculous statements just too appear controversial.

Peep "TV" Show, while far from perfect, does approach the subject in a manner I've not witnessed before.

Wiley Wiggins

I had a weird and horrible feeling as the events of 9-11 were unfolding. I wasn't in NYC the day it happened (I was in Toronto for the film festival. We were supposed to show our movie the day it happened.) but I was back a few days later to deal with the post-attack hysteria and the anthrax scare. One one level I was shaken to the point that I was barely functioning, but on another level I found myself almost addicted to the adrenalin-rush feeling that the world was unraveling around me and we might all die. I was glued to the television, waiting for the next horrible thing to happen, letting it bark disaster-porn at me until my head rattled with it. In a weird way, I think I wanted it to get worse, and was alternately horrified that I could feel that way on any level. Anyway, I don't think I've been the same since. Weird panic attacks have become a regular occurance and I think they may be here to stay.

STBD1

I wonder if it's an American thing or a human thing to be dissatisfied with the amount of horribleness in the world and to always hope for more. I'll admit, I do the same thing. Seen one bit of disaster on TV? Well, obviously we're desensitized to that now; what's next?

I'm beyond panic attacks. I've reached full-fledged disinterest, which frustrates me.

A year ago I was appalled at the girl in the restaurant. Now, I wonder if I wouldn't BE that girl in the restaurant, hearing that the world was collapsing around me and rolling over because, really, it'll just be worse tomorrow...

And yet somehow we just keep moving. Maybe our own brand of indifference is something like a survival technique.

Shikaku

Hello. I'm sending from Tokyo.
I've seen "Peep TV Show" at Festival. However it's not released on screen in Japan yet.

Anyway I was very shocked when I saw this.
It's very curious. I think that they are unordinary but their problems are very close to us.
Also I'm afraid of that foreign audience may feel Japanese are stupid people.

colinr0380

Indifference as a survival technique? I think you may be right, but I think we should also consider the way people as individiuals feel disconnected from their society, in the sense that it seems that it is pointless to get worked up about such a large situation - better to just go to work and try and keep your head above water, especially when it seems most people have troubles and fears over even being able to do this.

I think this isn't just an attitude that has appeared out of nowhere, it has been actively encouraged whether by companies or governments. It stops people from thinking that they can make a difference, or at least isolates them in their communities. It allows things to go on unchallenged or mostly unchallenged, with debate allowed but no guarantees that anyone is going to listen!

Of course this isolation and individualistic society is then confronted with a major catastrophe and calls for people to 'band together' against a menace. But having created a collection of individuals how easy is it to call for people to come together? Is it even a hypocritical call for unity since the government has actively disenfranchised its citizens to be able to persue its own policies with the minimum amount of dissention. Wanting a unified response, especially put in the terms of the Bush speech after 9/11 that 'you are either with us or with the terrorists' reveals how togetherness is wanted without the ruling hegemony giving up any of its powers to the 'masses'!

No wonder people were confused! But it is not just the huge events like 9/11 - here in the UK there have been talks of why when so many children are being given comprehensive sex education lessons that the rate of sexually transmitted diseases is high and getting higher. My opinion is that it the same reason why the UK also has a 'binge drinking' culture (drinking to the absolute limit of endurance!) and that is an extra factor in the individualism mentioned above, and that is short-termism. Not thinking of the future because, to be honest, the future doesn't look good! We can see it in business as well, when short-term profits are sought at the expense of the company's future. People do seem to take the same approach on both an individual and societal level (perhaps suggesting something like Kids is even more frightening than just on the 'teenagers having sex' level!)

I haven't seen Peep "TV" Show yet, so I don't know whether many of these issues are picked up on, but it sounds interesting!

colinr0380

Sorry, when I said 'something like Kids' I was talking about the Larry Clark film!

While I was posting again, I thought I would talk about Wiley Wiggin's comments about 'disaster-porn' on the TV at the time. I was actually feeling a similar way at the time, kinda glued to the coverage even though there was nothing new to report. Interestingly my father when he got home from work watched the main news, got up and switched the TV off saying 'well there's nothing more to report'. He was able to get what he needed from the news then turn off. Perhaps he was from an earlier generation while I'd been glued to the TV waiting for 'new' news!

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